|   What are th best economical tires for muddy terrain?? | John Kennedy
Dec 3, 2002 5:01 PM | | I've been looking and can't quite find any that are specifically made for mud. I live in a real muddy area, but there are also a lot of roots and rocks. I need tires that are suited best for this that are within the $30-50 price range. Any help would be appreciated! |
| i've had good luck w. mosquitos,but it don't rain much in L.A,nm | kam
Dec 3, 2002 5:33 PM | | . |
| Mosquitos in the mud??????????? | quaffimodo
Dec 5, 2002 11:51 AM | | I'd rather be nibbled to death by ducks. |
| One of my ... | OldSchool
Dec 5, 2002 1:36 PM | | riding partners has a set of Mosquitos on, and he's been doing very nicely in the mud. |
| As long as the mud is not too deep... | shiggy
Dec 5, 2002 1:55 PM | | ...The Mosquitos work OK. More than about an inch of loose stuff and I just slide and spin. They do grip wet roots and rocks very well and grip well on clean slick clay. |
| Slip-slidin' away.............. | quaffimodo
Dec 5, 2002 5:17 PM | | I've found that the performance of these tires deteriorates rapidly on either side, wet or dry, of the moist, firm conditions (PNW forest floor)they work best for me in. If you've got to ride on wet roads to the trailhead, fuhgeddaboudit! As a matter of fact I was thinking that once we catch up with 'ol Osama it might be kinda fun to put him at the top of something long, steep and wet on a bike equipped with the 'skeeters and a set of Dia Compe cantis........ |
| i agree... | kam
Dec 5, 2002 5:52 PM | | like i said, it don't rain much in los angeles. in thicker or deeper mud, i'd say the alligators are probably great, from what i've read.
pedal...kam |
| Conti Survival 2.1 | FredK
Dec 4, 2002 6:23 AM | | I run Continental Survival Pro 2.1s. They are great for loose and wet conditions in the Northeast. The tread pattern is open for good mud shedding and great traction in the loose. These things just hook up. The profile is a little narrower than many 2.1s, thus it slices through mud instead of floating and making you lose control.
I have only one pair for $55 shipped. Check my feedback on Ebay under fredk80 if you are interested and would like references. Contact me at fred_k24@hotmail.com if you're interested.
Thanks,
FredK |
| Conti Survival 2.1-make that two thumbs up............ | quaffimodo
Dec 5, 2002 1:43 PM | | They do a good job of digging thru the slop to find traction here in the NW . I scored some for 25 bucks a copy, online, but I don't recall which merchant had them. |
| Hutchinson alligators... | pedalinbob
Dec 4, 2002 7:50 AM | | jenson used to have them at $12 each for the kevlar beads. I think they are out of stock right now.
price point may have them.
I use the alligator 1.85 all black, and they are excellent in the crappiest of conditions. the 1.85 are wide--more like 2.0 or better.
run them at LOW pressure.
the alligator 2.0 are huge! also, the gold versions are fine, but, they are heavier. finding the all black will save some weight.
you could also go over to the general forum and page shiggy--he has used a lot of tires. I think he likes the irc mud mads, as well as a few others.
good luck,
Bob |
| Yes, do a search in General. | OldSchool
Dec 4, 2002 9:47 AM | | This subject has been discussed a couple of time recently...
Tim |
| The mud tire short list | shiggy
Dec 4, 2002 9:47 AM | | Any of them are less than $50.
* IRC Mud Mad 1.95 (front and rear designs)
* Tioga Factory Mud 1.85 front and rear designs)
* Hutchinson Alligator 1.85 and 2.0
* Conti Survival 2.0 and 2.3
* Maxxis Medusa 1.55
* Maxxis Swampthing 2.10
* Panaracer Fire Mud Pro 1.8
* Geax Blade 1.85 and 2.00
* Schwalbe Black Shark Mud 1.5 and 2.10
* Specialized Storm Control 1.8 (long discontinued)
I have used them all but the Maxxis. There are other "mud" tires out there but these work/look good for my PNW/Oregon conditions. There also some DH mud treads.
Go to my Tire Site for specs. |
| which mud tires do you prefer???? | KMan
Dec 6, 2002 8:05 AM | | Since you have some time in on many different brands, which ones do you prefer most.
I am looking to get a set of mud "racing tires" for the spring season and was either getting the IRC mud mads 1.95 or Panaracer 1.8 fire mud pros. Any recommendations?
Conditions are East Coast (PA), gets to be slick thick and often clay/sticky mud.
KMan |
| Depends on the conditions | shiggy
Dec 6, 2002 9:10 AM | | It is hard to go wrong with the Mud Mad 1.95 on the front. I would use the Fire Mud on the rear before the Mud Mad rear. Better latteral control under braking. The Fire is a very narrow (and light) tire so if you have pinch flat problems avoid it.
I would check the Survivals in both sizes and also the Schwalbe Black Shark Mud 2.10 (also in 1.50 but I would guess it is
i really
narrow!).
All of these tire should work in thick clay. The tread of the Black Shark is as deep as the Survival and spikey-er so it may grip well even when full of mud.
shiggy's Mt. Bike Tire Site |
| Been using the alpha and omega... | ps
Dec 4, 2002 4:43 PM | | for snow and mud and there is no way to hold mud. I wouldn't normally use them though, but my Fire XC's only hold mud. |
| Alpha and Omega what? | shiggy
Dec 5, 2002 8:38 AM | | I assume you mean Ritchey but they have had several different tires that use the Alpha and Omega names.
BTW the Ritchey Mud Max does not pick up mud but that is because it does not get traction in mud either. It might be OK in sandy mud if you do not mind the lack of braking traction. |
| Here's my recommendation... | odog
Dec 7, 2002 7:28 AM | | I've tried the Michelin mud specific green compound tires. And yes, the work well in mud. But for a more economical set-up, I've found IRC Mythos to work just as well. The Mythos aren't billed as a mud tire, however, I've found them to be just as good as any mud-specific tire in the mud. And I've seen them relatively cheap at Performance and Pricepoint (sometimes at $24/pair before tax and shipping at Pricepoint). Good luck in your search! |
| Where do you ride? | shiggy©®
Dec 7, 2002 10:02 PM | | It helps to know what type of mud you encounter. |
| Where do you ride? | John Kennedy
Dec 8, 2002 2:01 PM | | My area has a lot of black mud that goes a few inches deep. I usually just jump those because they're pretty dangerous to ride through. I also use my mountain bike to get around town, so I don't want tires that will keep me from riding on-road. |
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